Underpants on my mind

6 Jan

So this morning, with the Nerdist show in DC tonight, I was thinking back to the Christmas special.  I love it, the guys are hilarious but I have to admit I was surprised at the joke about “Karen Gillan’s underpants”… and I remember wondering, does that kind of stuff offend her?  I mean, we all know that there is a wierd type of separatism in the nerd world for girls.  I don’t know how many times I’ve had to explain that I was the one that was into Star Wars or Doctor Who and not the men in my life.  In fact, I normally would drag them into the fandom by coercion or force.  But still it made me wonder.  We all know she’s a tall drink of water, but does that make it okay??

So today I ran across the article “Nerds and Male Privilege Part 2”.

http://kotaku.com/5873885/nerds-and-male-privilege-part-2-deconstructing-the-arguments

For the record, I’ve had a crush on Gambit forever but there are a lot of other things discussed in the article that I can agree on.  I will not play with people I do not know online. If I play COD it’s not online.  End of story.  I know there are plenty of other women who feel the same since fatuglyorslutty.com came on the scene.

It is the reason that if I am going anywhere where there is going to be a higher ratio of men than women, I will show up in a baggy tshirt and jeans, even though I normally like to wear skirts, summer or winter.  There are even times I will try to make myself invisible and as androgynous as possible in these situations, mainly because I don’t want to deal with the unwanted attention.  Lots of times online I won’t admit I am female or post pics of myself.   I remember getting catcalls by doing nothing and if I tried to just ignore them would get called a dyke…. Wait, because I didn’t fall over myself because of you?

I remember playing video games after school with Lela and other female friends.  One friend always picked a girl who chose to fight in high heeled boots, a long skirt with a slit and a whip and we would laugh about it.   We have no problems with sexy women, sexy times, strip clubs or even porn, but it seemed a big change to play these games with a group of girls and then move into a coed group. In the article cited above, Dr NerdLove specifically mentions Arkham City and really, I think he brings up a good point.  I always liked Harley Quinn but what they did to her character turned me off of the whole game.  Some games do that, but on the flip side…. oh wait is there one? I remember Metroid and being super shocked and supremely pleased that Samus was a female.

I don’t know where I was going with all this, I just remember thinking about the Nerdist Christmas Special and being taken back by the comment about underpants and then wondering, if I said something, will people tell me I’m taking things too seriously?  Do I think I’m taking it too seriously?  On the other hand, I did laugh at the Hermione being legal joke, so maybe I am going straight to hell.

So here are the other parts to Dr. Nerdlove’s advice blog.

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/11/nerds-and-male-privilege/

http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2011/12/dont-be-a-creeper/

I was on there for way too long reading through the blog.  He seems to really know his shit and I hope he spreads the word far and wide, it needs to be heard.

Now, is anyone up for a game of sexism bingo?

http://geekfeminism.org/2011/11/03/quick-hit-sexism-in-games-bingo/

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9 Responses to “Underpants on my mind”

  1. Dr. NerdLove January 6, 2012 at 7:48 pm #

    Hey, glad you liked the blog! Hopefully it’ll help open at least a couple people’s minds with regards towards how they treat women.

    • toonerdygirls January 19, 2012 at 6:58 am #

      to be fair, i think the advice is good for females to read so they can understand and maybe a little more sympathetic to how hard it can be for guys. sometimes i think they forget it can be just as nerve wracking on both sides.

  2. eric January 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm #

    fatuglyorslutty.com is something else, LOL. never really been into video games, and a lot of online gaming seems to be something like a cognitive desert. that website certainly doesn’t do much to sway me otherwise.

    eric b

  3. Lela January 7, 2012 at 12:35 pm #

    All these years I thought I was alone in my undying love for Mr. LeBeau. I want to say that the article left off one important thing that I think ties both Gambit and Jareth… ACCENTS.

    Now I am totally down for Sexism bingo… I have my Xbox live all set up, and by mine my kids but whatever, details.

    Back when I was married to He Who Must Not Be Named, I used to play online games all the time. The filth I would hear was out of this world. Eventually I just created a new profile with an ambiguous tag, and all problems ceased unless I talked. Sad. Although when I would run into a fellow female gamer I would always ask her how big her boobs were…

    • toonerdygirls January 9, 2012 at 10:41 am #

      It’s just common courtesy to ask a fellow female gamer who big they are. I mean, if you DON’T ask, they’ll get totally offended. Just like they WANT to tell you what they’re wearing, they just want to be asked.

  4. Lela January 7, 2012 at 12:39 pm #

    As an afterthought, it is rumored that the female video game vixen figures are based on mine. Just a rumor though…

    • Mickey January 12, 2012 at 7:01 pm #

      That’s ok, Arkham City wad apparently raiding my closet.

  5. toonerdygirls March 1, 2012 at 11:25 am #

    http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/02/nerds-male-privilege-3-cross-assault-sexual-harrassment/2/
    ok this post needs to go under here. This comment on how women feel in today’s society in spot on:

    To be sure, we live in a post Third-Wave Feminist world, where women are supposed to be empowered and able to stand up for themselves and fight their own battles. Women are supposed to be assertive and powerful and unafraid to speak their minds! So by all rights, if she isn’t telling them all to go fuck themselves, then clearly she’s cool with it, right?

    Not so much.

    In our culture, women grow up socialized that they’re not supposed to make a fuss. They’re not supposed to be assertive. They’re encouraged – even in this day and age – to swallow their feelings and “go along to get along”. The pressure to not say anything and “just go with it” increases exponentially when you have precious few allies to back you up. A lot of times, embarrassment and even outright humiliation get covered up with laughter and increasingly brittle smiles.

    “If you fight back, it only gets worse,” they’re taught. “If you just pretend to go along with it, they don’t bug you as much.”

    Unfortunately, a lot of people take this behavior as tacit approval of their shenanigans. “See?” they say, “She doesn’t mind it at all!” Meanwhile, the harassment continues and nothing gets better. And in depressing truth: they’re not always wrong about this. Trying to take a stand on the matter often results in even greater harassment in retaliation. In a perverse way, her fighting back can be an enticement; now not only does the harasser get the thrill of wielding his power over her – and it is a form of power – but now he feels obligated to put her in her place for daring to stand up to him.

    To make matters worse, women can often expect to be blamed twice for their harassment; once for “inciting” it and once for protesting it.

  6. toonerdygirls July 26, 2012 at 11:41 am #

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielnyegriffiths/2012/07/26/fake-geek-girls-gamer-edition/

    this is why we don’t talk to anyone:

    “I’m talking about an attention addict trying to satisfy her ego and feel pretty by infiltrating a community to seek the attention of guys she wouldn’t give the time of day on the street.

    I call these girls “6 of 9″. They have a superpower: In the real world, they’re beauty-obsessed, frustrated wannabe models who can’t get work.

    They decide to put on a “hot” costume, parade around a group of boys notorious for being outcasts that don’t get attention from girls, and feel like a celebrity. They’re a “6″ in the “real world”, but when they put on a Batman shirt and head to the local fandom convention du jour, they instantly become a “9″.

    They’re poachers. They’re a pox on our culture. As a guy, I find it repugnant that, due to my interests in comic books, sci-fi, fantasy and role playing games, video games and toys, I am supposed to feel honored that a pretty girl is in my presence. It’s insulting.

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